[TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email-00.txt
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From: DA PIEVE Fabiana <Fabiana.DA-PIEVE@ec.europa.eu>
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Thread-Topic: Re: [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email-00.txt
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Subject: [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email-00.txt
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In my personal capacity, I have to say that in all this discussion it is not clear to me yet the main issue - the reason why we would go for a path that is not based on a common good sense, by removing the assurance of security given by “old” good crypto. This adds up to the fact that the cost of keeping it is actually cheap, and to the fact that an outstanding work has been done already to deploy hybrid ML-KEM in TLS. Hybrid ML-KEM is such a cheap way to reduce risks. So, overall, I still cannot crystallize in my head what is the advantage in security and costs in throwing away ECC and how to reconcile this with what is pushed in my own part of the world. Not sure what would be the advantage in fragmenting things now. I would like to invite all EU researchers or anyway all those with whom I am contact to write to me to help me increasing my understanding of the exceptional need for all this, and eventually share their technical concerns, to see if they overlap with mine, in case you would have time and you would be willing to do so. I thank everybody here for the discussion. Fabiana Da Pieve Program Manager [cid:image001.gif@01DCA67B.88EC0670] European Commission DG Communications Networks, Content and Technology Unit C4 – Emerging & Disruptive Technologies
- [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-bar… Richard Barnes
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Richard Barnes
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Bellebaum, Thomas
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Felix Linker
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barn… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barn… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barn… Richard Barnes
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Toerless Eckert
- [TLS] Re: [E] Re: New Version Notification for dr… Choyi, Vinod Kumar
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Paul Wouters
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Toerless Eckert
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Bellebaum, Thomas
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Bellebaum, Thomas
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… DA PIEVE Fabiana
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Toerless Eckert
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Ben Schwartz
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Daniel Van Geest
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Simon Josefsson
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Martin Thomson
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… David Benjamin
- [TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barn… Thom Wiggers