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Soatok Dreamseeker <soatok.dhole@gmail.com> Tue, 30 June 2026 21:21 UTC

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2026 17:20:44 -0400
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Something that has already happened *to a moon math submission that was not
as widely understood as lattices*. SIKE being broken was the international
standardization effort successfully working to motivate folks to find
attacks against novel cryptosystems. Using it as an indictment of an
unrelated algorithm is alarmingly ignorant.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 5:13 PM Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 2:09 PM Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL <
> uri@ll.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> People seem to keep forgetting (or ignoring) the whole purpose of the PQ.
>>
>> If your data won’t remain sensitive by the time CRQC arrives - you don’t
>> en need a hybrid. Just use your Classic ECC, experiment with PQ or not, and
>> prepare for eventual transition at some point in the future.
>>
>> If your data will remain sensitive - then the difference between “it got
>> compromised today” and “it got compromised with CRQC” is small, and ECC
>> won’t help at all.
>>
>
>
> That's not the argument, though.  It's that classical attacks might break
> the PQ algorithms. Something that has already happened.
>
> thanks,
> Rob
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