[TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-08 (Ends 2026-07-08)

Sophie Schmieg <sschmieg@google.com> Tue, 30 June 2026 16:34 UTC

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2026 09:34:11 -0700
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As with the old document, I support publication. (And just like Soatok, I
have a blog post about it if further argument as to why is wanted)

On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 7:48 AM Soatok Dreamseeker <soatok.dhole@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I support publication of this document.
>
> Happy to share my reasoning if anyone is curious (but I already posted it
> on my blog for the curious and impatient).
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2026 at 11:01 AM Joseph Salowey via Datatracker <
> noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>> This message initiates a new Working Group Last Call for
>> draft-ietf-tls-mlkem[1], which defines standalone ML-KEM key establishment
>> for TLS 1.3. The main question before the working group is: "Should the
>> working group publish a document specifying stand alone ML-KEM?". If there
>> is rough consensus then we will push to refine and publish the document;
>> otherwise, we will stop discussing the draft and not progress it. Please
>> respond to this call indicating whether you support publishing a document
>> specifying a stand alone ML-KEM. Please refrain from further discussion on
>> this topic as most arguments have been discussed multiple times.
>>
>> Why are we holding this consensus call now?
>>
>> Significant developments have occurred both within this document and in
>> the broader TLS ecosystem to address the concerns raised in the last WGLC.
>> Therefore, the third consensus call is warranted. We ask the working group
>> to consider document publication in light of these recent changes:
>>
>> - Promotion of Hybrids in draft-ietf-tls-ecdhe-mlkem: Following a
>> separate consensus call, the WG agreed to promote the X25519MLKEM768 hybrid
>> group to Recommended: Y in the IANA registry. Consequently, the IANA
>> registry will reflect a clear community preference for a hybrid because
>> Recommended: Y clearly indicates this while the standalone ML-KEM groups
>> defined in this draft remain Recommended: N. The updated security
>> considerations in [1] reference the IANA registry to emphasize this
>> preference.
>>
>> - Key Share Reuse Prohibited in draft-ietf-tls-rfc8446bis: The WG
>> recently reached consensus to explicitly prohibit key share reuse across
>> connections in TLS 1.3. The new text changes the guidance from SHOULD NOT
>> to a strict MUST NOT. This resolves the concerns regarding static key reuse
>> and its associated privacy and forward-secrecy risks for ML-KEM.
>>
>> - Nadim updated the ProVerif model of TLS 1.3 to evaluate KEM and hybrid
>> KEM groups in TLS 1.3. This supports other results which show that KEMs are
>> secure when used in TLS 1.3 and that hybrid groups are secure even if one
>> of the components is compromised.
>>
>> - Liaisons: We received liaison statements from multiple SDOs including
>> O-RAN[2], IEEE 802.11[4] and from 3GPP[3]  expressing support for the
>> publication of draft-ietf-tls-mlkem as an RFC as they rely on the IETF to
>> provide a stable normative reference.
>>
>> Please note that a third-party IPR disclosure exists [5] against this
>> document regarding patents related to the underlying ML-KEM algorithm. This
>> IPR declaration has not changed since the last WGLC. As a reminder, per BCP
>> 79, the IETF takes no stance on the validity of patent claims, and the
>> working group may decide to proceed with a technology despite IPR
>> disclosures if it decides that such use is warranted.
>>
>> Conduct Reminder: Given the heated nature of previous discussions on this
>> topic, participants are strongly reminded to adhere to the IETF Code of
>> Conduct (BCP 54) and the TLS WG's Mail List Procedures. Keep feedback
>> professional, technical, and focused on the document's text.
>>
>> This working group last call will end on 2026-07-08.
>>
>> Joe and Sean
>>
>> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-mlkem/
>> [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/2198/
>> [3] https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/2151/
>> [4] https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/2148/
>> [5]
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft&id=draft-ietf-tls-mlkem
>>
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